. >> of course, president barack obama is also saying we need new tax revenue as part of a followup dahle deal and today alan simpson and erskine bowles said they want even more cut than they had asked for before. while agreeing with the president on revenue, errse the former clinton white house chief of staff says he needs to push both sides. >> we're going to have to push the white house on health care. push the republicans on revenue. what we've tried to do is make enough cuts in health care to slow the rate of growth on a per capita basis to the rate of the growth in the economy. in our opinion that takes $600 billion to do over a ten-year period. >> reporter: maria, even if erskine bowles and alan simpson are successful in that, it's not likely to be before march 1st. this is all happening in public. private negotiations are not going on it. may be, as erskine bowles and alan simpson suggested today, that we need a public backlash from the consequences of some of those sequester cuts before there's enough heat for washington to make a deal. >> deja vu again. these speeches sound more